Introductions

topic posted Sat, February 28, 2004 - 6:49 AM by  Unsubscribed
Hi there folks.

I've been living in Flagstaff for a couple of years, not too far from Arcosanti. I kept driving by it and finally had to pull over and check it out. I've gone on the tour a couple of times and find it all fascinating.

What about you all. What's your interest in this place? Has anyone here taken the course and lived at arcosanti?
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    Sat, February 28, 2004 - 7:44 AM
    Ellen, you and the other AZ folks might want to mosey on over to 'Tucson' - which occasionally posts some amazing things. I haven't been to Arcosanti, but several of my friends from WindSpirit have - that's a vegetarian, organic community on some beautiful land in Winkelman, AZ (near Globe) - their fruit trees (thousands, maybe?) were planted over thirty years ago so the place is like a jungle. they have parties on new years, christmas, thanksgiving, etc where they invite people to come up, camp out (they do have a few empty housing situations) and trip. Another good treasure is the Peyote Way Church of God down in Klondyke (near Safford and Wilcox). yeah, i've got the dope on az. I will make it to Arcosanti one day. my question, have you Arcosanti people been to WindSpirit, the PeyoteChurch or Pongovi? I'm guessing yes, but just asking...
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      Sun, February 29, 2004 - 9:16 AM
      I'd never heard of Windspirit or Pongovi or the PeyoteChurch. I'll have to look into them.
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      Thu, September 9, 2004 - 8:40 AM
      I would love more info about Peyote Way Church of God, I was told alittle regarding it a couple years ago. I was invited to a ceremony in El Paso,Tx. and have high regard and respect for Peyote as a teacher plant.
      Any info how to contact the church?
      Thank you and blessings.
      What is Pongovi ? new to me.
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    Sun, February 29, 2004 - 2:36 AM
    I first heard of it back in the mid-70's(although I don't remember where now....so many years ago) I've always had an interest in architecture so it held an interest for me that way.

    Although I live in Tucson (Hi, Spastic!) since 1978, I haven't made it up there YET but have been to it's sister location Consanti in Scottsdale.
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      Sun, February 29, 2004 - 9:14 AM
      I haven't made it to Lowell Observatory right here in Flagstaff and I've been here over two years now!

      I want to visit Cosanti AND the FLW house in Scottsdale too.

      And I'm just drumming my heels waiting for the Turrel (sp?) Crater to open!
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        Mon, March 1, 2004 - 9:36 PM
        I also went to Taliesin West about 10 years ago. Definitely worth the look-see. Hard to imagine nowadays that it was once "out in the middle of nowhere".
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    Sun, February 29, 2004 - 1:47 PM
    I spent a couple months at Arcosanti familiarizing myself with arcological living. I really enjoyed the liveability of the space. My typical day involved waking up early in the morning and doing some farming, going to group meeting, eating some breakfast, then moving on to some construction work or computer work, and then talking to Paolo and other residents. In the early evening, we could go for a swim, take a hike, play music, chat with people, work on art projects.

    Great experience. And definitely worthwhile for people wanting to explore themselves and career directions. A month at Arcosanti will expose you to construction, landscaping, gardening, architecture, community development, event planning, design, foundry work, ceramics, and philosophy. It's intense and incredibly enriching. You get out of it what you put into it. And if there's an arcology project in Northern California, sign-me up!
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      Mon, March 1, 2004 - 9:37 AM
      I first heard of Arcosanti in the mid 1970s & I've been obsessing about visiting the place since. this past summer I finally had the chance. very memorable trip. this summer, I'd like to check out Cosanti.
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    Mon, March 1, 2004 - 9:39 AM
    BTW Ellen, you have some great photos of poultry!
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      Mon, March 1, 2004 - 11:27 AM
      Thanks Kevin.

      They must have some chickens at Arcosanti. I would really have liked to seen their agricultural efforts. But they must have chickens.
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        Mon, March 1, 2004 - 12:14 PM
        Yea, they probably have chickens. unless there're all vegetarians ;)
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          Mon, March 1, 2004 - 3:15 PM
          I've eaten in their cafeteria. Trying to remember if there was meat offered. I remember a nice snow pea dish and a bland sort of cabbage and potato soup.
          The biscotti in the bakery were good. I seem to recall cream for the coffee, so I don't think it's a strict vegan scene. Eggs might be cool. Besides, chickens can keep a garden weed & pest free!
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            Mon, March 1, 2004 - 3:19 PM
            Yes, they have chickens. And in fact they even have a chicken tractor. The cafeteria caters to all diets - vegan to carnivoures.

            They've also got Peacocks! Nothing like waking up in the morning to Peacocks and Roosters.

            Check out their Photo Archive. There are pictures of Camp and the farm.
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              Mon, March 1, 2004 - 4:29 PM
              a chicken tractor. must be some big chickens!

              ;)
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                Tue, March 2, 2004 - 8:08 AM
                A chicken tractor is a coop on wheels. Chickens will put themselves to bed in their coop each night. With a chicken tractor, you move the coop and with it the places they forage and fertilize.
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              Thu, March 18, 2004 - 9:12 PM
              those peacocks are LOUD down in the Camp. they freaked me out at first - they sound like babies crying.

              pretty creepy at 3 am...
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        Mon, March 1, 2004 - 9:34 PM
        Okay...me and my bizarre sense of humor - I immediately had this image of our fine feathered friends doing their own "ArClucksanti".
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          Tue, March 2, 2004 - 3:46 PM
          I thought it was a chicken-powered tractor.

          Wouldn't want to use those fossil fuels......
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            Tue, March 2, 2004 - 5:11 PM
            hi, i am Desmonde. I lived at arco 1997-1999.
            I live in the Bay Area. I have performed a lot with the Mystic Family Circus. I have been involved with many different groups such as Landmark Education, Goddess Unite, and right now mostly with the MFC educational program, Chrysalis, and another project out of shasta called the Phoenix Voyage. They both have tribes, come on by. I am passionate about these amazing new ways of being. One tool I love to work with is the Mayan Calendar. I know a lot about it and love to share, so come by any of these tribes and explore...
            In Lak'ech
            White Resonant Wizard
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    Thu, March 18, 2004 - 10:02 PM
    hi. i'm philip. i lived at Arco for about 2 months in the summer of 1996. did the workshop and worked in the metal shop while i was there.

    i first heard of arcosanti at the annual AIAS (aia students) gathering in Phoenix. Paolo Soleri gave a loooooong presentation + slide show that would have put many of us to sleep, except that the ideas and photos he was presenting were amazing.

    a few friends and i chose to take the tour to Arco, and i'm glad we did that rather than Taliesin. all 4 of us (in our little group) decided that we were going to do the workshop a couple summers after that, though i'm pretty sure i was the only one that followed through.

    Arcosanti was both inspiring and frustrating. the inspiration is pretty well shared by many who visit, but the frustration came from living there and seeing how many things could still be improved upon (more on this later), coupled with the snail's pace of construction.

    my belief is that as a first-generation attempt, Arcosanti is a success because it has inspired people to attempt a new way of planning. i don't think it will ever be finished, and i don't think it has to be.

    i could go on forever, but my fingers are tired.

    anyway, nice to meet you all. :-)
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      Tue, June 1, 2004 - 3:13 AM
      I had a look around at Arcosanti in 2001. I'm always interested in these kind of experiments. It reminded me a little of Auroville in India but on a way smaller scale. There was the sense that the dream didn't really come to fruition but that something was in progress anyway. I heard that Crosby, Stills and Nash played there in the amphitheater in the '70s from our tour guide (who, by the way, was a rude bitch). Yeah, Arcosanti is on my spiritual map somehow. I have a postcard on my post-board of one original model of how it once was envisioned to be built. I love dreams and pipe-dreams.
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        Thu, August 5, 2004 - 4:04 AM
        I first read about Arcosanti in Ecocities which is a great book if you all have not read it . . .
        i checked out the website and have recently been considering spending some time there, most of the postings from people here give me the impression that i won't regret it. one question would be, what is the weather in the winter, i know it's not balmy, but it would be a break from the NE right?
        i am also down with the 13 Moon Calendar-,
        in service to all,
        blue electric eagle
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          Fri, November 5, 2004 - 10:01 PM
          my husband and I met while we both lived/worked at cosanti...which is the predecessor to Arco down in Scottsdale....we were there for several years...living, working or both. Having Paolo as a neighbor is far from enchanting.....but it was an experience i would never give up....sleeping on the top of an apse in the middle of a desperate phoenix summer...blissful insanity it surely was
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            Thu, December 2, 2004 - 8:35 PM
            Hi,
            I just wanted to add that I was down at Arco a month or two ago helping with the Human Nature Dance performance. While in residency there for a week getting this show ready, I was extremely impressed by the amount of help the community put in. Whenever I asked for something, someone would walk me across the whole place to find it. So, if anyone who's there reads this, thank you!

            marshall
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          Sat, December 9, 2006 - 2:15 PM
          hey there,
          In reply to your question about the weather 2 years ago, it can get downright chilly at night but is nice and warm on many winter days.
          I suspect that yes it would be a break from NE, though they do stop the workshops dec and jan,
          so check the website about when you could go.
          They are now offering one week workshops, and two weeks, and a month long, which is recommended. and then to stay on for a month as a volunteer is great but not as great as committing to 6 months in a position, or even longer...
          Life at Arco is great, the energy is moving with all the artists always doing something creative.
          Winter is a time to slow down of course but they do offer in depth craftsman workshops then.
          I took a ceramic instument making workshop, as well as woodworking furniture.
          ;-)
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    Thu, June 2, 2005 - 9:16 PM
    I have just applied to go to Arcosanti in November of 2005 for a work-excahnge and potentially internship/employment. I am really excited to spend some time there and after having read a few of these brief accounts, my excitement grows.

    I am graduating from UCLA in a few weeks and look forward to beginning my own directed-education and continued learning-living experiences. Arcosanti is going to be one of the many opportunities for me to learn how to become a more helpful and creative community-oriented Human Being. My hope is to really accumulate skills and understanding of such projects so that I can create a similar, if not, smaller model of such a place.

    If anyone has any advice for newbies, please let me know. I have only heard great things so far.

    In Lak'ech.
    I am another you.


    Sincerely so,

    Michael Eugene Brown
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      Sun, December 10, 2006 - 8:09 PM
      Arcosanti is beautiful, magical, and dysfunctional at every level. It is a metaphor and a microcosm. It's where the Flintstones meet the Jetsons. It is a typically unique utopian hell...or a dystopian garden of eden. It is an intentional community, a company town, a tourist trap, and a grumpy old man's hobby farm. Arco is one frozen moment in long-term thinking, a hibernating giant, a study in evolution at glacial speed. Everything it is, it is not. Expect only paradox. Better yet, have no expectations, and they will be exceeded beyond measure.
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    Mon, January 8, 2007 - 10:03 AM
    Hi, I'm Amanda. I lived at arco from 96 to 98 or something like that. It wasd 2.5 years. I managed the agricultural situations. At the time we had a couple greenhouses, a peach orchard, a vinyard, a field that i filled with native crops, and a couple smaller gardens. When i got there, the agricultural efforts were minimal and lots of work was done to make the place thrive. Now things are quite different but great to see that people are having lots of fun experimenting with things. Now i live in New Mexico. Whenever anyone used to complain at stuff at Arco, Paolo would say. "go find your own mesa" . Well, I've kinda done that. But at Ampersand we focus on Natural building and permaculture and living off of rainwater, etc.

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